Co-pro snakes & ladders

It’s a bit like snakes and ladders this whole co-pro business. Mostly I’m leaping nimbly up the rungs like a young goat (only vastly more fragrant), energised by the glorious loveliness of the co-pro community. And then I remember welfare cuts and job losses and austerity and it’s back down the snake to the pits of doom.

This morning I was at the excellent Wales Public Services 2025 conference anticipating a goat moment, particularly since Lisa Curtice was coming down from Scotland (she heads up the Alliance and is a co-pro champion of the first order). Then the event started. The first three presentations were about money, the lack of money, and expected continuation of the lack of money unto the forth generation. Chart after chart plunged us down in to the pit (one delegate from Carmarthen plaintively asked if the Samaritans would be available in the break), and then something interesting happened. Not quite a goat but certainly not a snake. A snoat perhaps.

Mark Jeffs from the WG Audit Office had tipped us in to the snake pit via a range of  pink and grey charts showing best-case scenarios (pretty bad) and pessimistic-but-likely case scenarios (desperate).

Then he showed a possible response. Here it is:

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What a delight this is! Joined up thinking with people and values at the heart of it all. For all you snoat-lovers out there, here’s a link to the whole report.


About Ruth

UK National Teaching Fellow and Honorary Research Fellow at Cardiff University. Founder of Co-production Wales (All in this Together), co-pro trainer and consultant, working to make co-production 'the way we do things' in Wales. And having a ball!

2 thoughts on “Co-pro snakes & ladders

  1. Hi Ruth,

    Was good to (very briefly) speak last week and I look forward to catching up with you properly when I get back.

    Thanks for comments on the report/ presentation. I’m glad you thought it struck a balance between being grim and offering helpful commentary on potential responses. That was the aim (well I didn’t exactly aim to be grim but with the numbers the way they are some degree of grimness is pretty hard to avoid).

    As I said on the day, it is not a fully developed model. But I think it ties together some of the big ideas about what better public services might look like and what practical methods can be used to collectively challenge where we are, to work out where we need to be and how we can get there. Hopefully it has, at least, provoked some thinking about what can be done differently to protect outcomes given the serious financial and demand challenges that are not likely to go away any time soon.

    Once again, thanks for your comments and for sharing the report.


    PS: I have to say, as an auditor, I get called a few things, but “snoat” is definitely a new one on me!


  2. Hi Mark
    Thanks for your comment (and for being sanguine about the snoat tag!). I’ve also shared your report, and this model, more widely – I think you’re really on to something. I also sent it to Dr Catherine Needham (co-pro expert – B’ham Uni + has done great work with the Social Care Institute of Excellence). She’s interested in how it evolves, and she’ll be coming to Wales as a keynote in the Co-producing mental Health conference on 6th Nov. Would be good to make the connection I think. Either way, wonderful to discover radicalism, collectivism and snoats are thriving in the Wales Audit Office!)


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